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		<title>By: Josh Strike</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-24666</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Strike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that this matters much now, since the project is still in suspended animation more or less, but THANK GOD -- Wade, you should never have taken over that project and driven it into the ground like that. Whatever you might think of it personally, by being the one to take it and do absolutely nothing with it while you pursued other goals, you&#039;ve cost countless hours and money to the people who have struggled to maintain it over the past four years. Good luck with Zend framework and all that, but you should be aware you&#039;ve done a major disservice to the community and there are a large number of us out there who resent your actions over this period. To sit there and say that you just happen to be bad at running a project is complete bollocks. You&#039;re bad at communicating, bad at coding and you had no business putting yourself out as someone who could handle something of this scale.

AMFPHP is not dead, it&#039;s still the best and fastest solution out there (that doesn&#039;t require installing 22mb of garbage). If you disagree with that, it&#039;s your right to do so, but you drove the project into the ground and now as your blog title says, you&#039;re reaping &quot;the spoils&quot;. Good for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that this matters much now, since the project is still in suspended animation more or less, but THANK GOD &#8212; Wade, you should never have taken over that project and driven it into the ground like that. Whatever you might think of it personally, by being the one to take it and do absolutely nothing with it while you pursued other goals, you&#8217;ve cost countless hours and money to the people who have struggled to maintain it over the past four years. Good luck with Zend framework and all that, but you should be aware you&#8217;ve done a major disservice to the community and there are a large number of us out there who resent your actions over this period. To sit there and say that you just happen to be bad at running a project is complete bollocks. You&#8217;re bad at communicating, bad at coding and you had no business putting yourself out as someone who could handle something of this scale.</p>
<p>AMFPHP is not dead, it&#8217;s still the best and fastest solution out there (that doesn&#8217;t require installing 22mb of garbage). If you disagree with that, it&#8217;s your right to do so, but you drove the project into the ground and now as your blog title says, you&#8217;re reaping &#8220;the spoils&#8221;. Good for you.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-15525</link>
		<dc:creator>ricky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding what you said about Service Browser being part of the goals for the ZendAmf project. Is there any kind of service browser that exists for this? I&#039;ve already tried the notorious zamfbrowser but it doesn&#039;t work properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding what you said about Service Browser being part of the goals for the ZendAmf project. Is there any kind of service browser that exists for this? I&#8217;ve already tried the notorious zamfbrowser but it doesn&#8217;t work properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel S</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-11976</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://wadearnold.com/blog/?p=308#comment-11976</guid>
		<description>Hi Wade

Thanks a lot to you and also to the new developer team of amfphp. Unfortunately it doesn&#039;t work anymore with SnowLeopard 10.6.3/Apache 2.2.14/PHP 5.3.1. I downloaded the new Version of AMFPHP 1.9 (2.2.2010) and installed it into the document-root. When I start the AMF-Service Browser it comes with the Error_message below:

(mx.rpc::Fault)#0
  errorID = 0
  faultCode = &quot;Client.Error.MessageSend&quot;
  faultDetail = &quot;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.BadVersion: &quot;
  faultString = &quot;Send failed&quot;
  message = &quot;faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend faultString:&#039;Send failed&#039; faultDetail:&#039;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.BadVersion: &#039;&quot;
  name = &quot;Error&quot;
  rootCause = (Object)#1
    code = &quot;NetConnection.Call.BadVersion&quot;
    description = &quot;&quot;
    details = &quot;&quot;
    level = &quot;error&quot;

It doesn&#039;t work neither with the ZendServer CE 5.0. What is the solution for me? Will I have to migrage to the ZendAMF Framework? 

I&#039;d like to thank another time for your great work and would appreciate an answer? Thanks!

kind regards 
Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wade</p>
<p>Thanks a lot to you and also to the new developer team of amfphp. Unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t work anymore with SnowLeopard 10.6.3/Apache 2.2.14/PHP 5.3.1. I downloaded the new Version of AMFPHP 1.9 (2.2.2010) and installed it into the document-root. When I start the AMF-Service Browser it comes with the Error_message below:</p>
<p>(mx.rpc::Fault)#0<br />
  errorID = 0<br />
  faultCode = &#8220;Client.Error.MessageSend&#8221;<br />
  faultDetail = &#8220;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.BadVersion: &#8221;<br />
  faultString = &#8220;Send failed&#8221;<br />
  message = &#8220;faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend faultString:&#8217;Send failed&#8217; faultDetail:&#8217;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.BadVersion: &#8216;&#8221;<br />
  name = &#8220;Error&#8221;<br />
  rootCause = (Object)#1<br />
    code = &#8220;NetConnection.Call.BadVersion&#8221;<br />
    description = &#8220;&#8221;<br />
    details = &#8220;&#8221;<br />
    level = &#8220;error&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t work neither with the ZendServer CE 5.0. What is the solution for me? Will I have to migrage to the ZendAMF Framework? </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to thank another time for your great work and would appreciate an answer? Thanks!</p>
<p>kind regards<br />
Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-11491</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11490&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Gavin&lt;/a&gt; 
I have uninstall the 5.3.1 and install 5.2.13, the issue fixed on page: http://localhost/amfphp/browser/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-11490" rel="nofollow">@Gavin</a><br />
I have uninstall the 5.3.1 and install 5.2.13, the issue fixed on page: <a href="http://localhost/amfphp/browser/" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/amfphp/browser/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wade,

I don&#039;t have PHP 5.3.1 working with amfphp 1.9. And I always got the following error:
(mx.rpc::Fault)#0
  errorID = 0
  faultCode = &quot;Client.Error.MessageSend&quot;
  faultDetail = &quot;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed: HTTP: Failed&quot;
  faultString = &quot;Send failed&quot;
  message = &quot;faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend faultString:&#039;Send failed&#039; faultDetail:&#039;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed: HTTP: Failed&#039;&quot;
  name = &quot;Error&quot;
  rootCause = (Object)#1
    code = &quot;NetConnection.Call.Failed&quot;
    description = &quot;HTTP: Failed&quot;
    details = &quot;http://localhost/amfphp/gateway.php&quot;
    level = &quot;error&quot;

I don&#039;t know what happens. And when I look into the apache error.log, I got:
[Mon Mar 22 20:53:05 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: D:/Program Files/Apache/htdocs/amfphp/browser/history.htm, referer: http://localhost/amfphp/browser/
[Mon Mar 22 20:53:05 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: D:/Program Files/Apache/htdocs/favicon.ico

And when I google, there is no good solution on this.
Anything relevant for the root cause? 
And meanwhile, I am using: Windows XP with SP3 and Apache 2.2.14

Look forward to your kind help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wade,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have PHP 5.3.1 working with amfphp 1.9. And I always got the following error:<br />
(mx.rpc::Fault)#0<br />
  errorID = 0<br />
  faultCode = &#8220;Client.Error.MessageSend&#8221;<br />
  faultDetail = &#8220;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed: HTTP: Failed&#8221;<br />
  faultString = &#8220;Send failed&#8221;<br />
  message = &#8220;faultCode:Client.Error.MessageSend faultString:&#8217;Send failed&#8217; faultDetail:&#8217;Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed: HTTP: Failed&#8217;&#8221;<br />
  name = &#8220;Error&#8221;<br />
  rootCause = (Object)#1<br />
    code = &#8220;NetConnection.Call.Failed&#8221;<br />
    description = &#8220;HTTP: Failed&#8221;<br />
    details = &#8220;http://localhost/amfphp/gateway.php&#8221;<br />
    level = &#8220;error&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what happens. And when I look into the apache error.log, I got:<br />
[Mon Mar 22 20:53:05 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: D:/Program Files/Apache/htdocs/amfphp/browser/history.htm, referer: <a href="http://localhost/amfphp/browser/" rel="nofollow">http://localhost/amfphp/browser/</a><br />
[Mon Mar 22 20:53:05 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: D:/Program Files/Apache/htdocs/favicon.ico</p>
<p>And when I google, there is no good solution on this.<br />
Anything relevant for the root cause?<br />
And meanwhile, I am using: Windows XP with SP3 and Apache 2.2.14</p>
<p>Look forward to your kind help.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Chernoff</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-10058</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Chernoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wade, replay to &quot;You will soon find out that people appreciate open source by how much they pay for it. All the best!&quot;

I don&#039;t agree with that at all. My views are that if you don&#039;t like what your doing, don&#039;t do it. In contrast to that you can all ways tell when some one is passionate about some thing they do. That was something that I always admired about Patrick&#039;s work. 

I&#039;m sure your a really nice guy and do great work for Zend, but I never got the impression that you liked working on AMFPHP. I&#039;m glad you kept amfphp alive and even more glad that you handed it over to people who are passionate about it. Just as Ariel said, you could have let it die any time you wanted to. I realize that I have been a hypocrite by being as critical of your efforts yet at the same time not contributing my self. I hope to change that soon. I think I can speak for any one who has been critical of you efforts by saying that it was disappointing to see the progression that amfphp had with Patrick&#039;s efforts then to see that development progression drop off almost completely when handed over to you. But at the same time I&#039;m sure most of us understand circumstance and that you tried to do what you can.  

Best of Luck at Zend, keep on creating. 
- Josh C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wade, replay to &#8220;You will soon find out that people appreciate open source by how much they pay for it. All the best!&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with that at all. My views are that if you don&#8217;t like what your doing, don&#8217;t do it. In contrast to that you can all ways tell when some one is passionate about some thing they do. That was something that I always admired about Patrick&#8217;s work. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure your a really nice guy and do great work for Zend, but I never got the impression that you liked working on AMFPHP. I&#8217;m glad you kept amfphp alive and even more glad that you handed it over to people who are passionate about it. Just as Ariel said, you could have let it die any time you wanted to. I realize that I have been a hypocrite by being as critical of your efforts yet at the same time not contributing my self. I hope to change that soon. I think I can speak for any one who has been critical of you efforts by saying that it was disappointing to see the progression that amfphp had with Patrick&#8217;s efforts then to see that development progression drop off almost completely when handed over to you. But at the same time I&#8217;m sure most of us understand circumstance and that you tried to do what you can.  </p>
<p>Best of Luck at Zend, keep on creating.<br />
- Josh C</p>
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		<title>By: wadearnold</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-10019</link>
		<dc:creator>wadearnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ariel You will soon find out that people appreciate open source by how much they pay for it. All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ariel You will soon find out that people appreciate open source by how much they pay for it. All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: ariel sommeria</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-9988</link>
		<dc:creator>ariel sommeria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wade,
I actually missed this post, so better late than never. Thanks for the work on AMFPHP and the support you gave me when I joined AMFPHP. I&#039;m hearing some bad words about you, and I&#039;d like to point out to anyone reading that if you really had just wanted Zend AMF to move forward and let AMFPHP die, you could have just ignored me, which you didn&#039;t. 
I&#039;m sure there are bridges to be built between the two projects, as soon as the excitement dies down I hope we&#039;ll get the occasion to discuss them.
bye
Ariel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wade,<br />
I actually missed this post, so better late than never. Thanks for the work on AMFPHP and the support you gave me when I joined AMFPHP. I&#8217;m hearing some bad words about you, and I&#8217;d like to point out to anyone reading that if you really had just wanted Zend AMF to move forward and let AMFPHP die, you could have just ignored me, which you didn&#8217;t.<br />
I&#8217;m sure there are bridges to be built between the two projects, as soon as the excitement dies down I hope we&#8217;ll get the occasion to discuss them.<br />
bye<br />
Ariel</p>
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		<title>By: polyGeek</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-9764</link>
		<dc:creator>polyGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long live AMFPHP. I use it everywhere because it just works. I&#039;ve got the workflow down so I haven&#039;t bothered with Zend very much. Perhaps some project will come along that will necessitate Zend. Until then I&#039;m pimp&#039;n for AMFPHP all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long live AMFPHP. I use it everywhere because it just works. I&#8217;ve got the workflow down so I haven&#8217;t bothered with Zend very much. Perhaps some project will come along that will necessitate Zend. Until then I&#8217;m pimp&#8217;n for AMFPHP all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan V</title>
		<link>http://wadearnold.com/blog/flash/amfphp/passing-the-amfphp-torch/comment-page-1#comment-9760</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve pretty much gone to the Zend Framework all the way over the past year. I started out on AMFPHP, but I personally have come to like Zend_Amf better....mainly because it&#039;s being maintained and seems to integrate more seamlessly into Flex...though that could just be a matter of taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve pretty much gone to the Zend Framework all the way over the past year. I started out on AMFPHP, but I personally have come to like Zend_Amf better&#8230;.mainly because it&#8217;s being maintained and seems to integrate more seamlessly into Flex&#8230;though that could just be a matter of taste.</p>
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